Comments on: Hey AIMIA – This is digital not advertising http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/hey-aimia-this-is-digital-not-advertising/ A Top 20 ranked Australian marketing blog Sat, 04 Sep 2010 09:38:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: 7 awesome digital sports apps | Online Marketing Banter http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/hey-aimia-this-is-digital-not-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-2922 7 awesome digital sports apps | Online Marketing Banter Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:10:59 +0000 http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/?p=1092#comment-2922 [...] couple of weeks ago I had a bit of a crack at AIMIA over their nominees for this year’s digital awards. However, one nomination I think they got 100% right was the AFL. In fact, the Australian sporting [...] [...] couple of weeks ago I had a bit of a crack at AIMIA over their nominees for this year’s digital awards. However, one nomination I think they got 100% right was the AFL. In fact, the Australian sporting [...]

]]> By: Matt Jackson http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/hey-aimia-this-is-digital-not-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-2892 Matt Jackson Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:51:22 +0000 http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/?p=1092#comment-2892 LOL @ the flashturbation... I will definitely use that for years to come! :D PS. Great article too. Love your work. LOL @ the flashturbation… I will definitely use that for years to come! :D

PS. Great article too. Love your work.

]]> By: James Duthie http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/hey-aimia-this-is-digital-not-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-2875 James Duthie Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:36:36 +0000 http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/?p=1092#comment-2875 @Paul - Thanks for taking the time to leave a detailed response. It is appreciated and helps to give insight into the behind-the-scenes process. I'm sure your rigourous process is doing a good job of identifying the work the industry considers to be the best. I guess my challenge is to extend beyond this internal focus. Marketers have a tendency to admire the "cool" rather than the "effective". Let's reward the work that client's think is best, rather than the "industry". How? By laying the data on the table. By proving the success of the campaign with real metrics that are publicly accessible. That's my challenge. I understand it isn't easy to achieve this. Organisations are hesitant to release real data. But I don't think it's too much to ask for the positive PR. @Jonathon - Don't get me wrong. Creative is hugely important to the success of a marketing campaign/message. However, I do think there's an overemphasis on creative in AIMIA's awards criteria, which is reflected in their nominees. @Paul – Thanks for taking the time to leave a detailed response. It is appreciated and helps to give insight into the behind-the-scenes process.

I’m sure your rigourous process is doing a good job of identifying the work the industry considers to be the best. I guess my challenge is to extend beyond this internal focus. Marketers have a tendency to admire the “cool” rather than the “effective”. Let’s reward the work that client’s think is best, rather than the “industry”. How? By laying the data on the table. By proving the success of the campaign with real metrics that are publicly accessible.

That’s my challenge. I understand it isn’t easy to achieve this. Organisations are hesitant to release real data. But I don’t think it’s too much to ask for the positive PR.

@Jonathon – Don’t get me wrong. Creative is hugely important to the success of a marketing campaign/message. However, I do think there’s an overemphasis on creative in AIMIA’s awards criteria, which is reflected in their nominees.

]]> By: Jonathon Oake http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/hey-aimia-this-is-digital-not-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-2871 Jonathon Oake Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:08:12 +0000 http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/?p=1092#comment-2871 hi james, agree to a point, ignoring accountability is stupid, but i think creative is still hugely important - underestimated by the industry. one of the biggest barriers i see to driving big branding spend online is the client's perception that online (display mainly) can't deliver the creative flexibility and emotional involvement to really engage an audience like you can with TV ... may or may not be correct, but it is a big thing for clients. so an industry showcase of the best in creativity, trying to excite clients about the possibilities of digital can help overcome that, can encourage creatives to try and push the barriers even further. but at the same time, yeah, dumb not to play to our strengths - accountability j hi james,
agree to a point, ignoring accountability is stupid, but i think creative is still hugely important – underestimated by the industry. one of the biggest barriers i see to driving big branding spend online is the client’s perception that online (display mainly) can’t deliver the creative flexibility and emotional involvement to really engage an audience like you can with TV … may or may not be correct, but it is a big thing for clients. so an industry showcase of the best in creativity, trying to excite clients about the possibilities of digital can help overcome that, can encourage creatives to try and push the barriers even further. but at the same time, yeah, dumb not to play to our strengths – accountability
j

]]> By: Paul McCarthy http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/hey-aimia-this-is-digital-not-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-2869 Paul McCarthy Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:19:03 +0000 http://onlinemarketingbanter.com/?p=1092#comment-2869 James Thanks very much for taking the time to review and comment on this years AIMIA Award Finalists. Your post has prompted quite a bit of discussion which is great and I thought it worthwhile responding and (hopefully) addressing some of your concerns. This is the fifth year I've overseen the judging process as an independent observer and co-ordinator so I thought it worthwhile sharing with you some of that experience and behind-the-scenes explanation of the process. You've made some good points and while the AIMIA Awards are the oldest and most prestigious awards in the digital space we're always looking to improve and welcome comments and suggestions. I agree with your suggestion the Awards are about really about recognising excellence in the broad and growing sphere Digital Media and Services not only about Advertising. Over the past five years, Digital has had huge growth traction and visibility in the Australian Advertising Agency community - and it now represents a multibillion advertising media but equally many other sectors such as Education, Financial Services, Retail and Publishing and Entertainment who also continue to grow and innovate in their use of Digital. And these sectors as well as others are also all equally well represented in the AIMIA Awards. The AIMIA awards are about creativity you're right but equally they're about effectiveness. The AIMIA Awards are determined by the views of over 100 Independent Industry Experts carefully assessing each work on seven separate criteria not simply creativity. These are Fitness for purpose, Design innovation, Visual impact and Aesthetics, Technical expertise, Conformance to W3C Standards, Usability and Accessibility and Special characteristics. And effectiveness is part of all of these. Judging the AIMIA awards is an absolutely huge job - believe me! - involving many thousands of hours of work. It's also one we take very seriously - each of the judges thousands of individual scores (this year over 20,000 data points) are recorded then aggregated and “normalised” in a similar process used by the Olympics to judge Diving and Gymnastics events designed and verified with help from Professor George Cooney, who oversees the Higher School Certificate scaling in New South Wales. And I'm absolutely confident it produces a true assessment of what the industry consider to be the best work of the year produced in Australia. Also, this year, for the first time, we're also introducing a peoples choice award. The first output of the AIMIA Awards process is the release of the finalists list which is not all nominated works but a small subset of all entries submitted for consideration that the judges via the above process have deemed exceptional: • 16th AIMIA Awards Finalists http://www.aimia.com.au/i-cms?page=1.36.6636.6640 Then from this list the winners in each category are determined again using the same rigorous process. The winners, of course, will be announced at the Gala AIMIA Awards night themselves this year in Melbourne on Friday 5th March. I'd welcome any further comments or suggestions either via this blog or directly. best regards, Paul McCarthy Chair of Judging 16th Annual AIMIA Awards http://www.aimia.com.au/awards/ James

Thanks very much for taking the time to review and comment on this years AIMIA Award Finalists.

Your post has prompted quite a bit of discussion which is great and I thought it worthwhile responding and (hopefully) addressing some of your concerns.

This is the fifth year I’ve overseen the judging process as an independent observer and co-ordinator so I thought it worthwhile sharing with you some of that experience and behind-the-scenes explanation of the process.

You’ve made some good points and while the AIMIA Awards are the oldest and most prestigious awards in the digital space we’re always looking to improve and welcome comments and suggestions.

I agree with your suggestion the Awards are about really about recognising excellence in the broad and growing sphere Digital Media and Services not only about Advertising. Over the past five years, Digital has had huge growth traction and visibility in the Australian Advertising Agency community – and it now represents a multibillion advertising media but equally many other sectors such as Education, Financial Services, Retail and Publishing and Entertainment who also continue to grow and innovate in their use of Digital. And these sectors as well as others are also all equally well represented in the AIMIA Awards.

The AIMIA awards are about creativity you’re right but equally they’re about effectiveness. The AIMIA Awards are determined by the views of over 100 Independent Industry Experts carefully assessing each work on seven separate criteria not simply creativity. These are Fitness for purpose, Design innovation, Visual impact and Aesthetics, Technical expertise, Conformance to W3C Standards, Usability and Accessibility and Special characteristics. And effectiveness is part of all of these.

Judging the AIMIA awards is an absolutely huge job – believe me! – involving many thousands of hours of work. It’s also one we take very seriously – each of the judges thousands of individual scores (this year over 20,000 data points) are recorded then aggregated and “normalised” in a similar process used by the Olympics to judge Diving and Gymnastics events designed and verified with help from Professor George Cooney, who oversees the Higher School Certificate scaling in New South Wales. And I’m absolutely confident it produces a true assessment of what the industry consider to be the best work of the year produced in Australia. Also, this year, for the first time, we’re also introducing a peoples choice award.

The first output of the AIMIA Awards process is the release of the finalists list which is not all nominated works but a small subset of all entries submitted for consideration that the judges via the above process have deemed exceptional:
• 16th AIMIA Awards Finalists http://www.aimia.com.au/i-cms?page=1.36.6636.6640

Then from this list the winners in each category are determined again using the same rigorous process. The winners, of course, will be announced at the Gala AIMIA Awards night themselves this year in Melbourne on Friday 5th March.
I’d welcome any further comments or suggestions either via this blog or directly.

best regards,
Paul McCarthy
Chair of Judging
16th Annual AIMIA Awards
http://www.aimia.com.au/awards/

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